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Postby Heidita » Wed Feb 10, 2016 10:35 am

Reading a new book by McDermid !! :thup:

They are having a conversation and the woman was tense.

"There was no quarter in Maggies voice"


I can't even imagine what that means :shrug: :shrug:

It might mean: she wasn't giving anything away with her voice, which sounded ok, even though she was tense. Just guessing.
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Re: quarter

Postby lorenzo » Wed Feb 10, 2016 10:57 am

Quarter means refuge or sparing someone's life. In this context it means sympathy or kindness.
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Re: quarter

Postby qfreed » Wed Feb 10, 2016 1:23 pm

or it could mean that there was no forgiveness in her voice.

dictionary wrote:23. Mercy or clemency, especially when displayed or given to an enemy.


A victor gives no quarter when the victor shows no clemency or mercy and refuses to spare the life in return for the surrender at discretion (unconditional surrender) of a vanquished opponent.



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Re: quarter

Postby Pesta » Wed Feb 10, 2016 3:41 pm

A more literal meaning of 'quarter' is the noun 'shelter'. The etymology of quarter puts it close to "cuarto" (habitación).

We lived in close quarters.
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Re: quarter

Postby Heidita » Wed Feb 10, 2016 6:59 pm

Pesta wrote:A more literal meaning of 'quarter' is the noun 'shelter'. The etymology of quarter puts it close to "cuarto" (habitación).

We lived in close quarters.


Thanks pesta, this one I knew...I actually knew the word in many meanings but not in connection to a voice.
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Re: quarter

Postby Heidita » Wed Feb 10, 2016 7:04 pm

qfreed wrote:or it could mean that there was no forgiveness in her voice.


Hmmm, this sounds like it. She was tense and thinking about something in the past...and her voice was not kind.

However, this is the opposite of what Lorenzo said. :??: :??:

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Re: quarter

Postby saffron » Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:28 pm

The usual phrase is that someone gave no quarter. In other words they are ruthless, unyielding or without pity. sometimes said about politicians but otherwise more used in books about war. It is a phrase I know well as I have set it out but hopefully you will not come across too many people as tough as this.
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Re: quarter

Postby qfreed » Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:45 pm

Since I am a native Texan and have lived in San Antonio (where the Alamo stands) for a few years, I have to mention this example:

In it, Keller wrote, "When they sound the 'No Quarter', they'll rise to the slaughter, when they play 'The Deguello', the wail of despair." K. R. Wood's 1997 compilation album Fathers of Texas explains the bugle call and what it meant at the Alamo through song and narration.


They reference its meaning at the Alamo when they played it again in this movie.
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Postby Heidita » Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:51 pm

saffron wrote:The usual phrase is that someone gave no quarter. In other words they are ruthless, unyielding or without pity. sometimes said about politicians but otherwise more used in books about war. It is a phrase I know well as I have set it out but hopefully you will not come across too many people as tough as this.


Thanks, saffron, I also knew this meaning...but not in the context I have given. Very odd.
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Re: quarter

Postby Heidita » Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:52 pm

By the way...to give no quarter, to be ruthless: no dar cuartel ;)

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Re: quarter

Postby qfreed » Wed Feb 10, 2016 9:33 pm

...una zona de exclusión (llamada cuartel)....


Hard to find those when they explode a nuclear bomb above you.

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Re: quarter

Postby Heidita » Thu Feb 11, 2016 7:46 am

I looked up more context. I wonder if she was furious or simply her voice didn't give away whether/that she was..

This was an unwelcome surprise birthday party. However, Maggie keeps "scattering smiles and greetings".

Then her best friend comes up to her:

Teresa was there, soft words in her ears. "You look lovely"...
"You knew about this." There was no quarter in Maggie's voice.
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Re: quarter

Postby lorenzo » Thu Feb 11, 2016 1:03 pm

No quarter means no sympathy or kindness. Our translations are all basically the same.
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Re: quarter

Postby Heidita » Thu Feb 11, 2016 6:03 pm

lorenzo wrote:No quarter means no sympathy or kindness. Our translations are all basically the same.


Oh, well, you did say

In this context it means sympathy or kindness.


In any case....so she sounded put off....that is perfectly reasonable...even though she was smiling.
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Re: quarter

Postby lorenzo » Fri Feb 12, 2016 3:57 pm

Quarter = sympathy or kindness
No quarter = no sympathy or kindness

I thought that was obvious.

Offering no quarter and asking for none used to be a set phrase for a fight to the death.
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