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ADD kids and the ADHD kids

Postby Heidita » Mon May 04, 2015 7:42 am

Belinda Bauer "Finders keepers". Children are being abducted.

New book, written by a British writer.

My questions always refer to

    meaning?
    did you know this expression?
    is it a common word in your country, region?
    can you find use of hear this word in a normal conversation?
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What the heck ??? :roll: :??: The abreviations are spelled in capital letters.
By the way: why that news and not those news?

The school was alight with that news. Excitement crackled through every class. The ADD kids and the ADHD kids , and the kids who were simply angling for a label so they'd have an excuse , took the opportunity to be extra "challenging".
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Re: ADD kids and the ADHD kids

Postby Pesta » Mon May 04, 2015 7:52 am

ADD = Attention Deficit Disorder - Primarily describes "inattentive" children.
ADHD = Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder - Similar to ADD, but also "hyperactivity" problem.

As an abbreviation, ADHD is more often heard these days, but ADD is also still around.

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Re: ADD kids and the ADHD kids

Postby Patch » Mon May 04, 2015 9:17 am

Pesta's right and I think it's pretty common

Heidita wrote:By the way: why that news and not those news?



Eh? :??: Either I'm reading this wrong or someone's taking a trip to the dunce corner! ;)
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Re: ADD kids and the ADHD kids

Postby Pesta » Mon May 04, 2015 9:23 am

Heidita wrote:By the way: why that news and not those news?

Great question, and one that few native English speakers would ask.

To English, "news" is a singular concept. Even one fact is referred to as "news". Did you hear the news about Mary and John eloping? [giggle]
And it's also plural... "All the news that's fit to print" (common by-line for a major newspaper company).

One could say that "news" is an uncountable noun. You can't say "Two news". You can say "Two news items" (as adjective) or "Two items/bits of news" (as noun category).

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Re: ADD kids and the ADHD kids

Postby caza » Mon May 04, 2015 9:27 am

"That news" instead of those news - I think because we refer to an item of news as something single, so therefore "that".

Cars were on fire and several people have been killed (two different things about the same incident in the news report) That news is/was sad.
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Re: ADD kids and the ADHD kids

Postby lorenzo » Mon May 04, 2015 10:03 am

Many people believe both ADD and ADHD are over-diagnosed and used as an excuse to use medications to control children.
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Re: ADD kids and the ADHD kids

Postby Heidita » Mon May 04, 2015 4:27 pm

Patch wrote:Pesta's right and I think it's pretty common
Heidita wrote:By the way: why that news and not those news?

Eh? :??: Either I'm reading this wrong or someone's taking a trip to the dunce corner! ;)


You WERE of course reading this wrong :fant How dare you think that I don't know news is always SINGULAR!! :biggrin :biggrin :biggrin :biggrin

Jeeez, always get this wrong, so annoying :doh: . As I know about the "piece of news" bit, I continue thinking news must be plural.
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Re: ADD kids and the ADHD kids

Postby Sylvia » Mon May 04, 2015 11:00 pm

Maybe this will help with the singular-plural problem:
"No news is good news" -- or -- "No news are good news"

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Re: ADD kids and the ADHD kids

Postby Pesta » Tue May 05, 2015 7:20 am

Sylvia wrote:Maybe this will help with the singular-plural problem:
"No news is good news" -- or -- "No news are good news"

Is this a question? :??:
The second sentence simply sounds wrong to me.
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Re: ADD kids and the ADHD kids

Postby MaryMcC » Thu May 07, 2015 7:07 am

Pesta wrote:
Sylvia wrote:Maybe this will help with the singular-plural problem:
"No news is good news" -- or -- "No news are good news"

Is this a question? :??:
The second sentence simply sounds wrong to me.


I think that is the whole point. The fact it sounds wrong will help Heidita to remember news is singular.
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Re: ADD kids and the ADHD kids

Postby lorenzo » Thu May 07, 2015 9:30 am

I think the whole "sounds wrong" approach only works for native speakers. It sure doesn't work for me in Spanish.
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Re: ADD kids and the ADHD kids

Postby Sylvia » Sat May 23, 2015 7:55 pm

Heidita's book:
The school was alight with that news. Excitement crackled through every class. The ADD kids and the ADHD kids , and the kids who were simply angling for a label so they'd have an excuse , took the opportunity to be extra "challenging".


I have often heard of a place being "abuzz" with news but never "alight" with news.
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Re: ADD kids and the ADHD kids

Postby Sylvia » Sun May 24, 2015 10:04 pm

Lorenzo wrote

I think the whole "sounds wrong" approach only works for native speakers. It sure doesn't work for me in Spanish.


I think Lorenzo is right. That is why I deleted my post and did not submit it. Is there someone here who is going through the trash? This has happened to me more than once.
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Re: ADD kids and the ADHD kids

Postby Heidita » Mon May 25, 2015 8:39 am

MaryMcC wrote:
Pesta wrote:
Sylvia wrote:Maybe this will help with the singular-plural problem:
"No news is good news" -- or -- "No news are good news"

Is this a question? :??:
The second sentence simply sounds wrong to me.


I think that is the whole point. The fact it sounds wrong will help Heidita to remember news is singular.


Even at my level...this "it sounds wrong" doesn't always work (as Lorenzo said) . I have a good feeling for the language , however, Silvia's post certainly made me wonder why it was posted. I actually thought she was saying both sentences were correct.

A plural noun with a singular verb...that is very odd and as we don't have this in Spanish at all, very confusing. :shrug:
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Re: ADD kids and the ADHD kids

Postby Pesta » Mon May 25, 2015 7:45 pm

Heidita wrote:A plural noun with a singular verb...that is very odd and as we don't have this in Spanish at all, very confusing. :shrug:


Really confusing. Just like "El paraguas funciona suficiente". Sounds like a plural noun with a singular verb... :w:

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