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Translation and comment: El Arqueólogo

Translation and comment: El Arqueólogo

Postby Heidita » Fri May 12, 2017 6:50 am

I read this very interesting column by Rosa Belmonte this morning and was thinking it would be a great exercise.

I would like you to answer some questions and translate the extract.

the whole column here.

All this is happening about an uproar about a comment made by Joanna Lumley :

Idris Elba should not play James Bond as he doesn't fit description


Questions:

    Do you think people are taking this too far to think about "racism" here?
    Would you like to see a black man in the role of James Bond?
    Had you heard about this comment, do you think it is reasonable?

Ok, here is the text...I think it is very interesting , hope you like it :)

James Bond no es negro. Como no es negra Pippi Calzaslargas. La actriz Joanna Lumley (nuestra fabulosa Patsy Stone) ha dicho que no ve a Idris Elba interpretando el papel porque no se ajusta al personaje descrito en los libros de Ian Fleming. ¿Hay que explicarlo? ¿De verdad hay a quien parece racista? Viene a cuento por el debate, que yo creía pasado en lo que respecta a Elba, sobre el sucesor de Daniel Craig. Lumley actuó brevemente en «007 Al servicio secreto de Su Majestad» (no tan brevemente como Enrique Vila-Matas). A cualquiera le puede gustar más Idris Elba que George Lazenby, quitando a Pam Shriver, su mujer. Pero el australiano es blanco y el británico, negro. Un australiano puede pasar por inglés, pero es más difícil que un negro pase por blanco.


I think the last sentence is hilarious :lol: ...and I do think she is quite right. :cheers: Have a go at answering the question in Spanish, if you wish. :thup:
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Re: Translation and comment: El Arqueólogo

Postby qfreed » Fri May 12, 2017 2:10 pm

ImageIdris Elba

Why not? They don't mind changing Bond's personality to fit the plot. In one movie he is young and vital (Craig in Casino Royale...great foot chase scene) and in another he is aging and showing wear and tear. (Daniel Craig in Skyfall). In one movie he gets married (On her Majesty's Secret Service) and in others he is the single, inveterate lady chaser (most of the remaining movies). If they are going to give him an alternating personality, why not change his skin color? (Latest advancement in disguises from Q). If they can make a car invisible (Tomorrow Never Dies), why can't they change the appearance of skin color?



I'll just start the translation so everyone gets to work on it.

James Bond isn't black. Just as Pippi Longstocking isn't. The actress Joanna Lumley (our fabulous Patsy Stone) has said that she doesn't see Idris Elba playing the role because he doesn't follow the character described in Ian Fleming's books. Must we spell it out? Is there really anyone to whom it seems racist?....


As for my comment in Spanish:
¿Cómo no? No importa que cambian la personalidad de Bond para corresponder con el tema. En una peli es joven y viril y en otra es envejentado y muestra
señales de desgaste por uso. En una peli se casó y en otras es mujeriego empedernido. Si va a pintarlo con personalidad alterna, ¿por qué no pueden cambiar el color de su piel? El último avance en disfraz por Q. Si pueden inventar un coche invisible, ¿por qué no pueden cambiar el aspecto del color de piel?

(What does any of this have to do with archeology?)
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Re: Translation and comment: El Arqueólogo

Postby Heidita » Mon May 15, 2017 6:52 pm

qfreed wrote:ImageIdris Elba

Why not? They don't mind changing Bond's personality to fit the plot. In one movie he is young and vital (Craig in Casino Royale...great foot chase scene) and in another he is aging and showing wear and tear. (Daniel Craig in Skyfall). In one movie he gets married (On her Majesty's Secret Service) and in others he is the single, inveterate lady chaser (most of the remaining movies). If they are going to give him an alternating personality, why not change his skin color? (Latest advancement in disguises from Q). If they can make a car invisible (Tomorrow Never Dies), why can't they change the appearance of skin color?


I don't agree, the next we know is that snow-white is black, too. Or Otelo, white.





James Bond isn't black. Just as Pippi Longstocking isn't. The actress Joanna Lumley (our fabulous Patsy Stone) has said that she doesn't see Idris Elba playing the role because he doesn't follow the character described in Ian Fleming's books. Must we spell it out? Is there really anyone to whom it seems racist?....


As for my comment in Spanish:
¿Cómo no? No importa que cambien la personalidad de Bond para corresponder con el tema. En una peli es joven y viril y en otra es envejentado y muestra
señales de desgaste por uso. En una peli se casa y en otras es un mujeriego empedernido. Si va a pintarlo con le pueden cambiar la personalidad alterna, ¿por qué no pueden cambiar el color de su piel? El último avance en disfraz por Q. Si pueden inventar hacer que un coche sea invisible, ¿por qué no pueden cambiar el aspecto del color de piel?


(What does any of this have to do with archeology?)


eso digo yo...lo mismo se llama así su columna ... :shrug:
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Re: Translation and comment: El Arqueólogo

Postby qfreed » Tue May 16, 2017 4:33 pm

Heidita wrote:I don't agree, the next we know is that snow-white is black, too. Or Otelo, white.


¿Como así?
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And I would not use a character from a Shakespearean play (Otelo) as an example, since the theater traditionally used men to play the role of women. Talk about character revisions!
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Re: Translation and comment: El Arqueólogo

Postby Heidita » Tue May 16, 2017 5:45 pm

qfreed wrote:
Heidita wrote:I don't agree, the next we know is that snow-white is black, too. Or Otelo, white.


¿Como Así?
Image


¡Venga ya! la buena moza se llama "SNOW-WHITE" Blancanieves! ok, in America snow is black, great :doh: :doh:
Sounds like that TV show: orange is the new black ;)
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Re: Translation and comment: El Arqueólogo

Postby Heidita » Fri May 19, 2017 5:38 pm

Nadie más se atreve?
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