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How do you say 'beigel'?

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How do you say 'beigel'?

Postby saffron » Sun Feb 12, 2017 8:45 am

When I was growing up it was a word associated in my mind with Jewish food and New York City.
However, they are now readily available [mass produced] in the UK. I don't live near anywhere, where they are freshly baked.

I have recently seen a film about a famous beigel bakery in East London. A century ago a large number of Jewish immigrants settled here. However, as their situation improved they moved to other areas of London particularly North London. It is now an area where many Bangladeshis live.

In the video the two pronunciations are
bIGHgels as in high and bAYgels as in day. I have always heard baygels. The film is 25+ years old and I suspect baygels is now the common pronunciation. I assume the original word is German or Yiddish and the first word is true to its origins. How do Americans say it?

This is really an excuse to post an interesting film with a variety of accents. It dates back to 1992.

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Re: How do you say 'beigel'?

Postby qfreed » Mon Feb 13, 2017 1:35 am

This American says baygels. That fits with our little memory jogger about whether to use ie or ei.

i before e except after c or when sounding like (long/hard) A as in neighbor and weigh.

Since beigel uses ei, I have always heard it as (long/hard A), baygel.

However, on this side of the pond you will see it spelled bagel; not beigel.

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Re: How do you say 'beigel'?

Postby Heidita » Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:56 am

Solo añadir que yo también ´pensaba que se decía beiguel (así sería la descripción fonécita en español. 8-)

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Re: How do you say 'beigel'?

Postby Heidita » Mon Feb 13, 2017 9:01 am

aquí he encontrado un lugar...nunca digas nunca jamás :banana :banana

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Diríamos rosca, pero en realidad, si pides una rosca de pan , te dan esto.

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Re: How do you say 'beigel'?

Postby Goyo » Mon Feb 13, 2017 12:51 pm

Estoy de acuerdo con Qfreed. En todo los E.U. se dice baygul. Bagel rima con la palabra finagle.

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Re: How do you say 'beigel'?

Postby saffron » Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:08 pm

It seems beigel pronounced bighgel was favoured in Europe the word being Yiddish and bagel favoured in the USA, The spelling now is bagel and we have adopted that pronunciation even in the traditional East End shops where it is spelled beigel.

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